2006-07-14 11:35 am (UTC)
«Сучья война» Черкасовых и Пивоваровых
Изучая историю «воровского» (уголовного) мира в СССР случайно набрел в интернете на статью историка Будзиловича «Уличная шпана захватывает Мансонвиль». Каково же было мое удивление, когда в описываемых событиях я встретил фамилии Черкасова и Пивоварова (которые я искал через интернет-поисковики, но по теме криминала). Стал изучать более подробно деятельность сих господ, и пришел к выводу, что и для церковных историков личности Черкасова и Пивоварова могут быть весьма и весьма любопытны. И здесь, видимо, не случайны уже и их «генетические» союзы, а также любовь Черкасова к пописыванию романов об уголовном мире и «ментах». Поразительное сходство. В 50-е гг. «всесоюзными паханами» в воровском мире были такие знаменитые «воры в законе» как «Черкас» (Толян Черкасов) и «Салавар» (подлинная фамилия Пивоваров). Оба были ведущими авторитетами в советском уголовном мире, причем и Черкасова и Пивоварова тоже связывала тесная и многолетняя «закадычная» дружба. Причем, старая гвардия авторитетных «воров» обоих (т.е. и Пивоварова, и Черкасова) считала «суками», но которые позже, убрав конкурентов, сами стали «паханами». Об этих «авторитетных» всесоюзных братках-уголовниках в интернете можно найти очень и очень много интересного. Самое известное исследование, где упоминается о них: «Российское Зазеркалье. Заметки о циклах уголовного мира»
Поразительное сходство! Не правда ли? Вот только случайно ли оно? Стал наводить справки, и оказывается, что нынешние В.Черкасов и В.Пивоваров приходятся дальними родственниками связанных тесной дружбой «воров в законе» «Черкаса» и «Салавара». Не «воровским ли братством» и верностью «заветам предков» обусловлена дружба нынешних В.Черкасова и В.Пивоварова, затеявших (судя по статье Будзиловича), подобно и своим предшественникам, настоящую «сучью войну».
В этом отношении интересно, что вор Пивоваров (кличка «Салавар») был вождем т.н. «сучьей войны», когда после отечественной войны на зонах при поддержке МГБ была фактически уничтожена вся старая воровская верхушка, место которой на зонах посредством поножовщины и заняли «суки» - «пивоваровцы».
Вот что пишут о «доблестях» Пивоварова и «пивоваровцев» тех лет:
«Салавар - это на самом деле известный на весь ГУЛАГ вор в законе Пивоваров. "Пивоваровцев" начальство возило по всем тюрьмам, где те "гнули" и "трюмили" воров в законе».
А вот еще о:
«"главном суке Советского Союза" Пивоварове (Салаваре)»
А вот что пишут о Черкасове:
«Старейшина блатного мира Анатолий Павлович Черкасов - покойный ныне вор в законе по кличке Черкас»:
«Реформа Черкаса привела к укреплению власти «воров в законе» и превращению их в подлинных князей уголовного мира»:
О Черкасове упоминается также по следующим ссылкам:
Помимо общесоюзно-известного «Салавара», в уголовном мире известны еще ряд «урок» по фамилии Пивоваров:
1. Дважды судимый квартирный вор Пивоваров Кузьма:
2. Вор Александр Сергеевич Пивоваров, сын начальника Коркинской ГИБДД:
Говорят, история дважды в одну реку не входит. Но в случае с Черкасовыми и Пивоваровыми, видимо, это не так… История повторяется, хоть и не на зоне, а в церковных кругах. Но ведь «воры» всегда были «верующими», и у них за честь было выкалывать на груди православные кресты и «золотые купола». Есть над чем поразмыслить. Кто же они, Черкасовы и Пивоваровы?
2006-07-16 06:58 am (UTC)
from Paradosos list
Re: For the sake of peace - Statement made due to threat of blackmail
Suddenly the Judge shall come and the deeds of all shall be laid
Ms. Mitze did not find my retraction suitable enough. This woman is
trying to blackmail myself and others. She is demanding that I
state that what I have written are lies, which I cannot do because
what I have written is not a lie. Be aware that she is threatening
to hurt Vl. Vitaly and Ludmilla as well as myself in retaliation.
Such is her true love for Vl. Vitaly that she professes.
This is pure non-Christian behavior as it is returning evil for
evil. She claims that I have slandered her and will sue me in court
for it. The definition of slander requires malicious intent. I did
not have malicious intent - if I did, would I have asked for
forgiveness in my post regarding her?
I would have never made my post about my observations in Mansonville
had the ukazes not been published. I had no desire to expose or
defame anyone. The only intent of my post was to demonstrate the
threatening atmosphere that existed there - and that this is the
atmosphere that produced these ukazes - and hence they should not be
taken seriously regardless of which signatures are on them.
Now working with Ms. Mitze is Ms. Hannah (Lien Chu) McGuire, who is
also a follower of Orlov. For many years Hannah and I went together
to Mansonville. I considered this woman a friend and both of us
spoke many things in confidence. Now I find that she is trying to
defame me by being willing to speak of my pre-Orthodox life. First
of all, baptism washes all of this away. Second of all, remember
that he who is without sin only may cast the first stone. Finally,
confession also washes away misdeeds. All I can say that that my
conscience is clean before God and this is all that matters to me.
As a true friend, I beg Ms. McGuire to see what she is doing and to
act according to truth and not according to malice.
This is highly ironic because after everthing that happened in
Mansonville, I refused to tell her about what took place because I
did not want to influence her opinion of others. This is how intent
I was to avoid saying bad words or defaming those who had hurt me.
Even by saying this, I do not want to hurt Hannah, but hope to make
her see the truth and ask for reconciliation and repentance. It is
very hard to be betrayed by a friend.
While I have no malicious intent even to Ms. Mitze, as I most of all
desire her repentance and desire peace, she said she is prepared to
make an onslaught of material to "expose me." From previous
experience, I can say that her material is 1. truly slanderous as
her intent is malicious and 2. not always factual. This would make
her truly liable for charges of slander and libel. I am only
publishing this here because the truth needs to be told so that this
evildoing will stop.
If anything is published in the next week or so here or on her
website regarding myself or any happenings in Mansonville, know that
they are either falsified or in the case of documents - obtained
under duress and should be disregarded.
Having experienced this woman's threat of blackmail - last night at
11:31 pm Soviet style (and she refused to call me by my Orthodox
name which is the name she always knew me by), I can attest to her
use of high pressure tactics to force people to do her will. I
invite her to take me to court as I have written nothing with
malicious intent, but rather for intent of clarification and
furthermore a desire for reconcilliation and peace. The burden will
be on Ms. Mitze to prove malicious intent - and those that know me
know that I don't have a hateful or revengeful personality. Even
this post I am only posting in warning of her future actions
designed to hurt others. Financially I have nothing to lose because
I own nothing and have no assets. So she is welcome to waste her
time and make a fool of herself if she desires to sue me for
slander. The judge will laugh her out of court.
2006-07-16 06:59 am (UTC)
from Paradosos list
I will NOT give into the blackmail because I know that if I do,
there will be more and more demanded. I was requested by others to
give into her because of her threats to others. As far as I am
concerned, Ms. Mitze cannot be allowed to continue to get away with
this behavior. It is time for it to end and even if it brings
defamation to my own person, I will accept this as a consequence. I
think that even if she publishes her threatened materials, most
people will already be well aware of her character.
She wants to tell the world that I am mentally insane - as I do take
antidepressants and suffer from depression. I have Seasonal
Affective Disorder and I also suffer from Electromagnetic Syndrome
(sensitivity to radio waves). These are diagnoses from Harvard
University Medical doctors. These same doctors would also have no
problem attesting to my overall sanity.
Nevertheless, my condition has debilitated me to the extent that I
am currently on disability. Depression is not insanity, while the
paranoid behavior of Ms. Mitze is of questionable sanity. I will
also gladly affirm that I do go crazy in the presence of denial of
reality - I have a hard time keeping it together when someone tells
me to say that black is white and white is black.
When Ms. Mitze called and threatened me and demanded the public
apology, I asked her to email me and enumerate each statement that
was false. She refused to enumerate what was false or to email me.
Her response was nothing but a broken record of threats. She
refused to answer my questions (and yes I yelled at her to "shut up"
several times because she was such a broken record) and this did
make me go nuts. She knows this weakness of mine and chose to
I asked her if she believed in God, as I found it hard that anyone
could believe in God and speak the way she was speaking. She
refused to answer this. Again, I state that we will all have to
answer before the Judge someday and I beg her and those assisting
her to bear this in mind.
Personally, I do not care what people will think. Are we not to be
fools in the eyes of the world for the sake of Christ?
Christ demands that we bear false accusations and I will not shirk
from this test. Many saints (and I am far from a saint) have set the
example for us. Ms. Mitze knows well that false accusation is my
greatest weakness - for this is what I discussed with her for over
an hour on our trip to Montreal. Now she is using this knowledge of
my weakness against me.
I have brought others to task over the issue of the inability to
bear false accusation. Honestly I knew that because I judged others
in this way that I myself would someday be put to the test. This
time is now and I accept the test and the defamation. I do ask that
she refrain from hurting others, as implied in her blackmail attempt.
If anything, her threats of blackmail give more credence to what was
said about her pressure on Vl. Serge. I do not doubt that she used
the same tactics with him as she is now using with me. Vl. Serge
now lies in his grave. This is not to say that she is responsible
for his death, but rather a testimony that he did not give into her
blackmail and threats.
Furthermore, for me to claim that my statements are lies could cause
legal problems down the line and I do not want to be responsible for
aiding untruth - as my statements regarding this situation are true
and I would be bearing false witness to claim that these are lies.
My faith is important enough to me that I cannot be untruthful in
this matter. To deny what is true would be a denial of Truth. Our
path is martyrdom and I will not shirk from this.
For me, it is better that I publish this openly because I do want a
public statement to be available should she choose to take me to
court. I will refrain from taking her to court for blackmail and
threats, as this is not Christian behavior. My desire is not to
return evil for evil, but rather to state the truth.
2006-07-16 06:59 am (UTC)
from Paradosos list
Still, I will obtain a restraining order against her and Hannah who
she has trying to stalk me on the internet. Any calls, letters or
visits to my residence will be a violation of this order. I live in
a highly secure complex complete with cameras and 24 hour security
guards. Given the threatening nature of the call I received last
night and given that this is likely the same type of behavior that
Vl. Serge was subject to, I believe that there is good cause for
such a restraining order.
I do believe a case can be made that Mitze's behavior does fit in
the category of stalking, as she uses her witchhunts to hurt
people. Vl. Vladimir and Fr. Viktor and Fr. Elia are three of her
victims so far, what to speak of Vl. Serge who preferred to go to
his grave rather than give into her demands. Her track record
speaks for itself. So far, almost every person she comes into
contact with, eventually ends up on her revenge list. This is hardly
Christian behavior and beg Ms. Mitze to turn to the Holy Gospel and
see that it is only the evil one who encourages one to seek the bad
rather than the good. Should she decide to sue me, that is her
decision. I have God and truth on my side and will not be cowed KGB
style. I would much prefer her repentance.
I believe that our actions will speak for themselves. Many great
saints were sinners and I pray that I, a sinner, can follow in their
footsteps and reach the Kingdom of Heaven. I also pray that someday
even those who are my enemies will also be found in the Kingdom of
Heaven. I do not wish damnation upon anyone and that we all find
the love and peace that is in Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
That the truth has hurt Ms. Mitze, I here and now apologize for
hurting her. As a Christian I do not like to hurt anybody. But
lies are of the devil and there is no compromise to be made there.
I cannot speak a lie - this would be just like the surreal example
of the 2+2=5 thinking that I was subjected to in the original post
and furthermore it is a concession to the evil one. This I cannot
In the interest of truth and fairness I will state the following:
So far, there has been only 2 legitimate objections by others:
1. My statements regarding Fr. Viktor
2. My statements mistakingly aligning a priest with the Orlov
In both cases that were brought to my attention, I expressed my
willingness to retract and apologize in public for these
statements. Both parties stated that they did not feel that this
was necessary so I did not.
What can be proven untrue, I am more than willing to retract,
apologize and repent for. On the other hand, to say what I
witnessed with my very eyes is a lie I cannot and will not do. I am
even willing to retract a statement for the sake of peace, but lie I
am not willing to do. Get behind me Satan I believe was Christ's
response to the Devil's temptations. I can only say the same.
I will not post anymore on this issue and will make no attempt to
defend myself online over future accusations. I am content that God
knows the truth. Again, for the sake of others that she has
threatened, do not pass judgment on them or their actions, as they
were most likely taken under duress or coersion. I have reason to
believe that Ms. Mitze may be well versed in mind control tactics -
whether this is something that she consciously does or unconsciously
does I do not know. I have had previous experience with such
behavior and will affirm that her behavior is the same and I would
not hold her victims to account. That she has been asked to leave
Mansonville and will not do so is a good example of the type of
power and threat that she can hold over others. This should be kept
in mind as she proceeds on her usual tasks of defamation. One last
time, in the name of Our Savior who commanded that we forgive 70x7,
I beg both Ms. Mitze and Ms. McGuire to repent and seek truth,
reconcilliation and peace.
To both Ms. Mitze and Ms. McGuire, I ask that you be forgiven for
you know not what you do. I also forgive you for the same reason.
If God forgives, how can I do any less?
Asking the forgiveness of all,
RC Peters (Katya, Katina)
2015-10-28 11:20 am (UTC)
Всё ближе в степень мы идем , как говорят "одни на льдине!"
Старейшинна блатного мира...Черкасс, затрону я его....
Хоть не был на его могиле сказать одно хочу--
По волчьи жить!
Иметь предание значениям!
Что б суть ты мог всю изложить! , Не надо тут законных мнений!!!
Лишь по-людски попробуй жить! !!!